This is a live blogging of the session.
In Tarpleyâ€™s paper on Jane Austen, she said that what we think about a novel says more about us than it does about the novel.
The character reveals a great deal about the culture that creates, recreates, and revises the character. The differences and the changes offers a fascinating commentary on culture.
Guinevere brought down Arthur and Lancelot, through her sexual actions.
clip from Boudicca 60 A.D.
small kingdom in Britain, lived about a century before Guinevere
gathered an army after the Romans ignored her husbandâ€™s will
Wife was flogged, daughters raped, kingdom conquered.
Routed a Roman legion, but they were losing, so she killed herself.
start here because it connects with the 2004 Guinevere movie.
“Womanâ€™s Suicide in Fairy Tales” argued that the suicides are empowerment
Guinevere mss mentioned two times, she â€œbetrayedâ€ Arthur by being raped by
ladies are enclosed within the castleâ€™s walls
enclosed by the walls
13th C story, Arthur commits incest with his sister, sneaks into her bed, and gets her pregnant. Mordred is his son with his sister.
Arthur laments the Round Table more than the loss of his wife.
Arthur = idealized perfect king
Guinevere = prototypical bad woman who brings down the kingdom
change Mordred to not Arthurâ€™s son with his sister, but to his nephew
â€œshameâ€ repeatedly used in a discussion of Guinevere
illustration from the Penultimate Book of Idols- Guinevere grovels at Arthurâ€™s feet.
1954 Knights of the Round Table,
with Ava Gardner as Guinevere and Robert Taylor as Arthur
â€œMy lady, will you take me for your champion?â€
â€œWho are you?â€
â€œIâ€™ve seen many wonders in the world, but none is as beautiful as you.â€
Her in the high window with the knight looking up. She is static.
Much more chaste for the 1950s.
Allows him to fight for her freedom.
She is held between two men. She hides her identity from Lancelot.
encased in white fur through the forest
â€œmost terrifying forest I have ever seen. I simply adore it.â€ â€“ Guinevere
â€œWas there ever a more inconvenient marriage of convenience?â€
She foolishly seeks adventure,
which is denied a woman of her statusâ€”cluelessly adventurous
still surrounded and encased
Excalibur Warner Bros. 1983
grabs a shield to stave off a fighter
Lancelot comes to escort her to the king- They see each other.
curly big hair, position in the middle of the battle, helping the injured
not totally static
falls in love at first sight
First Knight Columbia 1995
lower class Lancelot
beautiful strong Guinevereâ€”ruler of her own country
chooses to marry Arthur to protect her country
Lancelot is a lower class guy, has to get in touch with his inner child
attacked in her carriage and she deals forcefully with one of them, jumps from the carriage, Lancelot rescues her right before the bad guy shoots her. He gets rid of them.
Another falling in love at first sight.
â€œCan I have her when youâ€™re finished with her? Have you ever seen anything so beautiful in your life?â€
I have my orders. Iâ€™ll hold her for you. You hold her for me. Look at her. She wants it too. You can see it.
She kills the man who grabbed her.
She too betrays Arthur, with a single kiss.
Lancelot succeeds Arthur as king.
King Arthur Touchstone 2004
native Britain woman who fights both Roman and Saxon invaders
She is strong, refusing to bow to torture. She is willing to die.
Postcolonial Guinevere strong.
Joins Arthur and his six Roman knights fighting against the Saxons. â€œSeven against 200.â€ â€œEight, â€œ says Guinevere.
â€œHold until I give the command.â€ Arthur
â€œThereâ€™s a large number of lonely men out there.â€ Lancelot
â€œDonâ€™t worry. I wonâ€™t let them rape you.â€ Guinevere
leading the Romans, blue skin, PG battle dress
original film ends on the battlefield after the endingâ€”audience hated it.
Director added a wedding ceremony. Instead of being triumphant and bloody, Guinevere is wearing a dress, happy to kiss Arthur, and cheered by everyone around.
Guinevere is reduced to female construction.
New TV series starting in April. â€œmeeting with Guinevere, and the one who betrays himâ€ â€œShe is the only shining lightâ€¦â€
Arthur and Guinevere in cartoon?
Camelot 3000, comic book series
Disney could redeem her and sell Guinevere costumes.
Warrior woman, but put in a white dress at the end.
Looked at Guinevere in carriagesâ€¦ Interesting.
Merlin series right now.
Has Morgan LeFay had a remake?
No mystery in the 2004 King Arthur movie. No magic. No fantastic elements.
1990 Guinevere raised in school by Morgan LeFay. Goes to school with Lancelot. She rescues Arthur.
Favorite movie? 2004 King Arthur, depiction of Guinevere
favorite movie is Camelot
Idea of heroic.
Julie Andrews in stage version. Snubbed for the movie version.
Mary Stewartâ€™s trilogy: How does that fit in?
I donâ€™t remember it well enough. Need to read that.