29-seconds discussing the issue of How Fiction Shapes Us.
29-seconds discussing the issue of How Fiction Shapes Us.
While I had intended to live blog the MLA sessions I attended, I did not do so. I saved this one to add pictures to, forgot about it, and left it in my drafts without much hope of ever coming out. Today, in searching for something else I had written, I stumbled upon it and felt that publishing it, while several months late, might be a useful choice–even if I didn’t get matching pictures.
Presiding: Charles Hatfield, California State Univ., Northridge; Craig Svonkin, Metropolitan State Coll. of Denver
The room is full. It’s not one of the smaller rooms, either.
Picture books help children learn to enjoy reading. Comic books are seen as “fugitive literature” that people hide.
Share a history.
Long list of works that show that these two types of works are related and connected in unique ways.
Find comics confusing.
Two texts both by Michael Nicoll Yahqualanaas: The Canoe He Named X X and Red: A Haida Manga
Comic book structure more complicated.
Picture books, picture are separate from words.
Comics, words appear outside of, in, and through pictures.
Red exaggerates taht by placing words in edges of the panels.
In most pages of comics, there are more bits of information.
Picture books offer more pictures.
Complicated combinations in comics, seem less centrally or purely illustrative.
Comics both imply sequential panels and other non-sequential possibilities.
Red as it appears on a gallery wall, a network of possible relationships.
Reveals other structures and patterns within them.
Totality = network
strip, page, and album are increasingly complicated
We can and do re-read, even picture books.
But we do so in the context of the relative isolation of the pictures and text, each separated by page.
In reading comics, the potential and actual relations seem immediately important. A single frame, from a corner of a larger picture. That page is a two-page picture. And it can be seen in the network gallery presentation of Red.
Different ways in which they illustrate each other could undercut…
Invitation to join into and out of numerous possibilities.
Red is a particularly intense example of that proliferation.
Characters interact with the borders: lay down, lean against, grab hold…
Comics seem to be radically tangential and unstable. That is its strength.
Always full of unrealized possibilities.
The Canoe looks more like conventional borders. Effect is more illustrative than energetic. Only pictures with “wide-eyed boy” have the energy of Red.
Picture and comic books have different breathing/reading rhythms.
Picture books build laterally. Work to make sense of words and books. Undercut each other. Build meaning. New pages and new pictures and new words give us a new puzzle.
Comics less dual. “fracture both time and space” (McCloud)
Closure allows us to connect these moments.
Ideas in earlier panels add to the new idea.
“the stuttering art”
Both Red and the arrow he shoots “stutter.”
More information makes for more complicated understanding needed.
Easy to downplay generic characteristics, but it is important not to ignore them.
The most significant study: might reveal something about inherent idiosyncratic…
picture books= pedantic,
“Not Genres but Modes of Graphic Narrative: Comics and Picture Books,” Philip Nel, Kansas State Univ.
juxtapositions: between “pictorial and other images in deliberate sequence” (McCloud)
Picture book: juxtapositions between words and
movement in time:
comics: movement in time on all pages
picture books: movement of page
Venn diagram of the two. Might be different forms.
Comics have panels. And picture books do not. But some picture books have panels.
Typical two pages are one panel or each page is a panel.
In a typical comic, the gutter appears on both between panels and around the edges.
Panels, both with and without borders, have been part of the visual grammar of picture book narrative. (Curious George)
Multiple panels in a given page in all comics, but not in all picture books.
Bow-Wow Bugs a Bug by Mark Newgarden and Megan Montague Cash = multiple panels = comics
Board books = single panels = picture books
exposing the flawed warrant behind my claim that picture books use comics-style story telling…
I’ve been using genre as synonymous with form. Genre is more than form.
“Genre is reflected in form and features, but is not those form and features.”
Difference: Scott McCloud, etc.
Comics represent time spatially.
Comics locate the reader in space and are able to spatialize memory.
Comics’ cartographic temporality makes it particularly suitable for memoirs.
Picture books also represent time spatiallly.
We know looking at Olivia (2000), we know we aren’t looking at 17 fashionable pigs, but one at 17 different times.
They do render time as space.
Even the absence of bordered pictures, picture books still use time.
shortcomings of using genre to talk about form
spatial temporality in both
but panels offer multiple views
aspect to aspect
Harold and the Purple Crayon (1955)’s gutters are not like a comic books.
comics integrate words and images INTERdependently… Mark Newgarden
Both use/have interdependent words and images
text and image together form X
the location of that tension determined by where the words appear…
Comic books harder to isolate words and images.
Though some in picture books.
Examples of mixed image and words:
Contract with God
Woof Meow Tweet-Tweet
Two key formal differences:
1. degree of specificity in temporal divisions
2. proximity of contiguity of words and images
Greater in comics for both.
“Genres are essentially literary institutions, or social contracts…” Jameson, The Political Unconscious (92).
Many continuities between comics and picture books.
Thinking of comic books and picture books as a mode: “a conventional power of action” (Frye Anatomy of Criticism 366)
Literary genres value originality and novelty.
Recommended: Amy J. Devitt Writing Genres
Genres are unstable and evolving…
“Graphic Novels’ Assault upon the Republic of Reading,” Michael Joseph, Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick
reading very quickly…
I’m going to begin “In conclusion, the elaborated code of comics:
their printing history
Loop attention back to the book as a work of art…”
Loop attention back to the process of reading and their experience of reading.
Comics resist traditional process. Spurn authority of typical codex books.
social identity or structure resisted by comics
In early modern Europe, spurning ritual meant being less than human….
The same values that subscribe bookmakers surely subscribe the rituals of bookmaking and reading.
Looking at reading as a physical performance… involving eyes, head, fingers, stomach, and awareness of one’s reading body as an X in space and time. Body acts on environment that depends on how people move in it.
Qualitative experiences in ritualized and schematized reading…
Some woman moving around and into a chair “Sofa” by The Seven Fingers of the Hand… There’s a space around a reading figure in the back. He is enclosed in a void. Reading happens in or creates around itself a kind of bubble or crystal ball.
Reading body not only possesses phenomenology but it is connected to a transformative comment.
Reading is opposite of fear and nightmares. “Wake up, oh reader, and read!”
Child reading comic book under blanket with a flashlight, avoidance of sleep and reason…
â€œI feel that learning with books is as important a rite of passage as learning to eat with utensils and being potty-trained.â€
Romanticized concept of ritual. Allied with a belief that ritual allows people to become human. 1982… anthropologist
books = forks, potties
Book is a culturally coded argument to restraint.
Books immunize the sexuality. Book as kind of chastity belt.
Books were allied with slaves and women… Associated with less intellectual… Greek…
We assume books absorb meaning.
The immateriality of the codex book is an overwhelmingly strong ideal.
Reading as immaculate conception.
Spiritualization of the book…
Porn superstar Sasha Gray reading to children. She’s naked.
Turning and examining and reading a book that requires turning to read keeps the reader involved. It also de-ritualizes reading.
Reading qualifies as ritual.
By romanticizing ritual, we lose understanding that ritual is part of modern world not the answer to the modern world.
“Ritual can be situational. A matter of what … done… rather than ..universality…”
St. Jerome reading… reading as prayer.
Sanctuary? (Syfy) woman in a library, with hands cupped in front of faith, like prayer
Codex… book’s anatomy…
The Ideal Book 1893 “sleeves should be peaceful”
“As to the height of a page, this is governed by the hand and eye.” –Gill
Books anatomy bears the imprint of the reader.
Stephen Lukes “ritual draws people’s attention to certain forms… since every way of looking is a way of not looking”
foregrounding arbitrary …
communal rituals… make pointed, though symbolic and indirect, traditions
make inconsistent demands on the reader, ask to be loved…
“The Panel as Page and the Page as Panel: Uncle Shelby and the Case of the Twin ABZ Books,” Joseph Terry Thomas, San Diego State Univ.
Grew up reading comics.
Didn’t read children’s literature until I hit college.
I was the kind of kid who read comics, comic books, comic strips… My ambrosia was word balloons and colors.
Around the same time I took a children’s lit class, I began reading the so-called language books.
genre-bending books led me back to… historical avant garde… New York School unafraid to cajole the comics I so loved.
Kind of texts I met as a young man resist the genre of Aristotelian…
“Stopping by Woods as a Snowy Evening”
“Visual Text XIV” poem
or “Concrete Cat”
yet they are all poems.
If I had added sound poems, there would be even less.
Theoretical defense: radial category
“typical case” poem
less likely a work is to meet a kind of marker, the closer you are to a typical case prototype
Eventually the case becomes harder and harder to make. We reach, have moved so far from the center, that we have something that is “intermedial” or “experimental” or “X avant garde.”
Historical defense: where published, who wrote
Samuel “Chip” Delaney best articulates this defense in his review of Scott McCloud’s Understanding Comics.
“What I mean when I use the term genre: … largely through an unspecified combination of social forces (they are sold from the same bookshelves in bookstores, they are published by the same publishers, they are liked by the same readers, written by the same writers, share in a range of subject matters, etc.), most people will not require historical evidence to verify that a writer producing one of those texts, has read others of that group written up to that date.” (257)
to justify this: Shel Silverstein
“The” US children’s poet
got his start as a comic for Playboy
poems called “seemingly dashed off and endlessly recycled”
Poetry seems so simple and straightforward. Hard to pin down as one form of art.
Poetry interesting because it isn’t always just poetry.
He insists that his poetry must be connected to the illustrations.
Some of his poems are their illustrations.
mixed genres, travelogues, etc.
Consider this: visit to a nude beach “Nudist Camp” essay, photojournal, one panel gag comic, etc.
“New St. Nick” collides the motion of the panel. Here he’s blending the comic strip with light verse.
Savage Sword of Conan #95, December 1983, full page panels
“infamous” sideways issue of Spiderman.
Slipperiness of genre… page of Playboy
Uncle Shelby’s ABZ Book…
picture book parody of children’s alphabet book
two double-paged spreads, comic book version
content suggests alphabet book, look suggests comic book
a minor point… Narrative isn’t a crucial element to either comics or picture books.
In the comic version, one reads across the page.
In Playboy, clearly a parody.
Once the panels are broken up into pages and a cover added. Our reception of the work is unsettled. His picture at the back is Shel Silverstein reading with three children moving, but being read to.
In the form of a picture book, we are no longer thinking about a hole, but we are looking at something you might bury in a hole. When you read the page, the drawn hole is a phallus.
Concluding gesture: Delaney’s definition of genre good.
But rather than drawing up lists of which are comics and which are picture books,
See how the text is read by its community of readers.
Asking what happens to a comic when it is read like a picture book and what happens to a picture book when it is read as a comic.
Resist the idea of picture book and comics being these way because …
Talked back and forth.
Next person: Found the panel very refreshing… Last decade comics’ theory has focused on authority and formal definition. Glad to see this absent here. In doing that, you liberate comics and picture books into a more sophisticated sense of re-reading.
Taking a book apart and hanging it in a museum stops it being a book and makes it a piece of visual art.
Artist’s book … responding to elitism of the art world.
Graphic novels make gestures to sophisticated art work, but they ask to be seen as literature.
mass production of picture books… means they occupy different genres(?)
My first experience with Red was with the museum visual artistic representation. Quite different response to seeing it on the wall. Then intrigued to see the book.
Artists’ books have become overwhelmed by desire to sell well. So they become beautiful but aren’t really art any more.
Not clear to me that the generic boundaries are shared by all readers.
Picture books are mapped out on storyboard… Harry Potter is all those things.
I really want to define a difference between picture books and comics and then in other ways, there’s not.
last issue is a comic book that you are supposed to take apart. Designed to be destroyed. Good if you buy two copies.
Comics “don’t have to be worked at as artwork.” Comics abstract comics. Don’t need to have narrative.
Comics and curation… art…
Historicize the genre as it shifts.
Billy Collins’ Sonnet on writing sonnets is online and cute. (Okay, it’s not stately like sonnets usually are, but it is fun.)
From a friend on Facebook, I have found a video that is a wonderfully funny and pertinent introduction to Shakespeare’s language through comedian John Branyan’s Shakespearean translation of “The Three Little Pigs.” It is AMAZING.
I am using it tomorrow in fyc, since we are practicing writing about literature using the fairy tales. Next semester I will use it to introduce Shakespeare in my Brit lit class.
The short story “The Yellow Wallpaper” is a fascinating description of clinical schizophrenia, or dementia prÅ“cox. The idea for the yellow wallpaper in the room may be related to the fact that some wallpapers were painted with colors which caused deadly fumes. Perhaps some were associated with insanity?
Also: “Association of both green and yellow with the concept of poison has not been fully abandoned until today…”
OOO as Mode of Literary Criticism has an interesting point. It’s on a newer lit crit theory that I would actually agree with (as far as I understand it).
Object-oriented criticism for its partâ€“ and it is here where I am unsure as to whether or not Joy will agree with me â€“begins from the premise not of the meaningfulness of the text, but of the materiality of the text. The text is something. A text is an entity that circulates throughout the world. And like all bodies or objects that circulate throughout the world, texts have the capacity to affect other bodies. Here then we get the first sense of what it might mean to say that criticism comes after the text. This thesis is not the bland truism that the text must first exist for us to â€œcriticizeâ€ it, but rather is the thesis that criticism is a production based on the affectivity of the text. In other words, the question is no longer the question of what the text means with the aim of closing the text, but rather is the question of what the text builds.
The text above is from another post on the OOO lit crit theory.
Every time I teach one class (outside my major field but not outside my minor field) I think I am not going to have such a big final exam.
This year I took it to one of my colleagues. She said it was too hard. I told her I had used the same exam (different questions, but same level of difficulty) at two different CCs. (We are at a SLAC.) After having said that, I was like, well, shoot. If the CCs can do it, the SLACers ought to be able to, too.
I want the students to at least have some basic idea about the readings we do in the semester. And I can’t ask synthesis questions about all of the reading we’ve done (plus two of the six big essays require synthesis of the works). So I use two different kinds of questions, which makes for a significant two hour exam and usually means I can find out if the student knows what I said but doesn’t know what it means or understands the major ideas and at least read the major works but promptly forgot the minor ones.
So, I guess, if I don’t care whether or not they remember basic ideas in most the works or if they don’t understand big concepts for a few of the works, I could grade less. But I really want them to know both.
After I gave the exam I remembered that the last time I gave it I decided I wasn’t going to give both parts again, as it was too much grading. But the last time I gave it I also graded both parts and then recorded the total as the percentage of whichever part they did better on. (The two halves are designed to be about the same level of difficulty, but one is short answer and one requires complete paragraphs.) So I did that again for this bunch.
The two parts grade two different kinds of information (one is synthesis, the other is recall/understanding), which is why I always end up using both.
Still mining the comments from Siobahn Curious’ Classroom as Microcosm blog post “How Do Games Help Us Learn?”
Samuel Wood said:
One which I have used when teaching Shakespeareâ€™s sonnets is to take them back to their early schooling and actually draw the woman as described in many sonnets and then turn to Shakespeareâ€™s Nothing Like the Sun. This gets students thinking about the preposterousness of much imagery, clichÃ© and metaphor as well as ideas of love and poetry.
And Siobahn replied:
I often think I should get students to draw more in my classes. One teacher I know breaks the class into 14 groups and then has each group create an image for one line of a sonnet â€“ then they post the pictures up in order and reconstruct the sonnet together. I always thought that sounded like a lot of fun.
Remember the six elements of the Conceptual Age that Pink argues we have moved into?
That’s okay if you don’t. Unlike my students, you don’t have a quiz (or a test) on the topic.
One of the six elements was narrative.
In 1986 psychologist Jerome Bruner, now at New York University School of Law, argued persuasively that narrative is a distinctive and important mode of thought. It elaborates our conceptions of human or humanlike agents and explores how their intentions collide with reality.
Earlier, the article, from Scientific American says:
[W]riters and readers … use fictional characters to think about people in the social world.
Psychologists once scoffed at fiction as a way of understanding people becauseâ€”wellâ€”itâ€™s made up. But in the past 25 years cognitive psychologists have developed a new appreciation for the significance of stories. Just as computer simulations have helped us understand perception, learning and thinking, stories are simulations of a kind that can help readers understand not just the characters in books but human character in general.
Something to think about.
A reader (Wayne Stauffer) sent in his conference notes from a presentation given by Jack Marshall of Houston Community College, Central (where I used to work) to add to my “How to Write a Character Analysis” blog post. I think the work is useful enough to re-quote the entire comment here to make it more accessible to readers.
Iâ€™d like to offer another hero type. Itâ€™s not one of my insights, but one that I heard at a conference years ago.
The Female Hero: A Fictional Archetype
The Female Hero:
1. Enters a community alone, sometimes with her child or lives in a community which attempts to reject her.
2. Unifies the community and brings harmony and accord or creates a separate community full of harmony and accord.
3. Has personal relationships with several individuals and their lives are better because of their relationship with the Female Hero.
4. Has power over others because of her overwhelming love, wisdom, goodness, and honesty. The Female Hero rarely, if ever, resorts to physical force or violence to accomplish her ends.
5. Reforms the villain in the story, if any appears. Usually, incorrigible villains kill themselves, fate eliminates them, or other characters dispose of them.
6. Rarely participates in competitions or fights. When they do occur, reaching accord is more important than victory over an opponent.
Conflictâ€”In traditional myths, the male hero must subdue or defeat a villain in a win/lose situation that ends in a victor and the conquered. In the Female Hero story, the Female Hero changes the antagonist or invokes social pressure to discipline or change the antagonist.
The Secretâ€”The Female Hero or her best friend knows a secret that can only be revealed to someone intimate and trusted.
Popularityâ€”The Female Hero becomes liked and admired by almost everyone in the community. She accomplishes this feat by good deeds, talent, skill, a friendly disposition, and overwhelming charm.
Community Unityâ€”The Female Hero is always a part of some larger community, be it a family or town. Her goal is to reconcile all the members of her community. The Female Hero not only works to get everyone to like her, but to like each other as well. A happy ending occurs when her efforts and genial personality result in community harmony.
A Nurturing Natureâ€”Sickness and death are moments of intimate expression and release of emotions, something very important to the Female Hero.
Expression of Emotionâ€”This is a notable trait in the Female Hero precisely because most male heroes repress their emotions to the utmost. While the male hero takes action to solve a problem, the Female Hero faces problems which action alone will not resolve.
The Obnoxious Personâ€”This character is much more important in a Female Hero story than any villain. Narrow-minded old people, irascible children, crabby relatives, irate neighbors, and the repressed husband are some of the more common obnoxious people the Female Hero must charm and win over as friends.
Relationshipsâ€”Female Hero stories are about connections between people. Action is secondary.
Social Disapprovalâ€”In most myths, traditional concepts about the role and nature of women oppress the Female Hero. If male heroes reject society and ride off, society applauds. But women who stray from traditional passivity and acquiescence usually feel isolated and scorned by society. This is the reason so many girl heroes are orphans and so many adult female heroes are outcasts or newcomers into a community. Quite often the Female Hero must create a community of her own, even a community of outcasts. The traditional male hero battles a villain, but the Female Hero must contend with a much more amorphous foe, society in general.
Love Stories are somewhat different from the Female Hero Story. The female protagonist civilizes, tames, or reforms the man-beast by the power of her loveâ€”courtly love stories often follow this pattern (e.g., Beauty and the Beast). The obedient, unassertive girl is rewarded with a prince (e.g., Cinderella). Originally, this was a story of a motherâ€™s power: the dying mother gave the girl a doll who advised her, or a surrogate mother (fairy godmother) appeared and worked miracles. In genre love stories, the female protagonist must mold herself to suit the male. Her power is derived from her relationship with a man. Love stories often make the female protagonist seem less passive by making two assumptions: 1) The lovers think and feel in accord; and 2) fate or some other supernatural power has created the two lovers for each other and no one else will do as a partner.
Wayne Staufferâ€™s 2Â¢ comments
When the male hero rejects society and rides off, the community approves because his kind of character is a disruptive, contentious element that disturbs the social equilibrium, the harmony and accord. The community is glad heâ€™s gone.
When the Female Hero leaves, it is because she has disrupted the social equilibrium and is being punished for not fulfilling her role as unifier. The community is not happy to force her to leave, but it cannot approve of the disruption she has caused and must make her an example of what happens to those who would emulate her.